Here is a decent fake Stu W. posted over on WAF. It's a reissued one like one in Fuller & Gregory's book. The position of the number on the blade, configured to be read with the cutting edge down, identifies the sword as having been produced by the Tokyo Arsenal (The only other source for the Type 95 sword was the Nagoya arsenal, which impressed the number on the blade in such a. Out of stock. The brown paint on the hilt has mostly worn away, as it did not really stick well to the aluminum. age of a Japanese sword, seek advice from a reputable collector. This prevents the sword from falling when the soldier is running. When in doubt, check the blade with a magnet. All NCO swords were numbered. The fuchi collar at the base of the grip bears three stamped marks, these being the marks of the Iijima Copany, the group that manufactured the blade within the Tokyo Arsenal; the inspection stamp of the Imperial Army unit within the Tokyo arsenal that inspected the sword; and the Tokyo Arsenal identification stamp. Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. You can post now and register later. This is a very scarce and important very early production Japanese Army Type 95 NCO Sword. Save japanese type 95 sword to get e-mail alerts and updates on your eBay Feed. Does anyone know if theres a production dating list for the different manufacturers of the type 95 nco swords ? This fine example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana with aluminum handle construction and machine made blade. Most WW II era blades are not sharpened all the down to the habaki (collar). For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. Japanese early second pattern WWII Type 95 NCO shin gunto with matching numbered scabbard. Yes, those are strangely too perfect and not a recognized font. Further Clear editor. All the best. The end of WWII marked the beginning of the sword ownership ban in Japan. Blade is 26 1/4 inches long, with an overall length of 36 1/4inches. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. This thread is quite old. Serial number placement. Ivory has a distinctive grain. The collctors in China can spot the fake easily as well,and they pay more than us to get the real ones. The serial number should be near the bottom of the blade, just above the habaki. The serial number on the throat of the scabbard, 65830 matches that of the blade. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. General McCarthur did not want the general population to be able to arm again. It's hard to really pin down, just doesn't sit right with the eye. Powered by Invision Community. Is the tang (nakago) signed? locking mechanism works very well. Screws. China has a rising group of wealthy individuals who are buying up cars, gold, realeatate, antiques and art at an alarming rate. The Scabbardlooks to have some paint left, however it is under the leather cover, which we have not removed, so we do not know how much still remains. You cannot paste images directly. Some of these bone swords will have very low grade metal mountings, commonly with the Tokugawa mon incised into or embossed on the mountings. I sent the seller a message. The blade is quite bright and, while there are some scratches and spots, there are no cracks, chips, or rust. Overall a very nice condition WW2 Type 95 NCO Katana that will appreciate in value over the coming years. This is a great and guaranteed genuine Japanese NCO's Type 95 sword that was carried by a career soldier. Most swords do not have matching numbers because somewhere along the life of the sword the scabbard was changed. They are getting better with the Kokura cannonballs, but this one - the lines are to thin, the balls too big. Serial range could be wrong as well but, I cant see them. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Many of the better Matching serial numbers 31123. There is a suspicion that this is a fake. I din't know why the NCO swords are asked so strong. painted wood figures. It's also really interesting that it looks like the original serial numbers on the scabbard and blade matched before they were ground. Display as a link instead, The prices go higher and higher and they will copy better and better to take part on this. There should be no characters etched on the blade, just a serial number. If the peg (mekugi) or screw holding the handle (tsuka) onto the blade can be removed and the handle safely removed (use care not to damage the handle or blade - the complete handle should slide off the end of the tang), examination of the tang (nakago) can tell much about the age of the blade. Collectible Japanese Katanas, Japanese WWII Swords, Japanese Straight Razor, Japanese Tea Cup; Additional site navigation. We assume no liability associated with misuse of our products. Eligible for all payments - Visa, Mastercard, Discover, AMEX, Paypal, Amazon & Sezzle. I admit that I've had to look at it a couple of times. What a bunch of junk. NCO's sword, Kokura arsenal stamp. The saya I figured it might be useful to others. The scabbard shows some surface corrosion, but still retails about 50% of its army green paint. All Rights Reserved. There are two NCO late stage on Ebay now. The blades in these items are all "soft steel" and have etched temperlines . So many repros use Phillips or combination screws, especially on the saya. But a small percentage made its way back to the United States and into the collector market. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. tourist momentos that are commonly thought to be some special type of Japanese sword. Always check. General McCarthur did not want the general population to be able to arm again. WWII JAPANESE TYPE 98 ARMY SHIN-GUNTO SWORD!!! like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. Sword steel of the army standard , Blade length: 83.6, Curvature: 1.35, machine made, tempering in oils, with a fuller and no Hamon, Overall length: 100.2, Made in the Tky Artillery Arsenal Type 32 Gunt is a government supply noncommissioned officer sword enacted in 1889 (August 23, Meiji 32). Wayne i would have called bad on it, think F&G early book had balls that big, remember two diff stacked ball stamp, or not, memory, lol, i jest. Army NCO's Sword, matching serial numbers. It's also highly unlikely that a replica would have such a wonderfully aged scabbard cover. Swords of this type were made in all sizes, from tanto to katana or tachi. Please quote item reference S72 (0690). Many modern replicas and iaito have aluminum blades. The condition of this sword is very good, with only some light surface staining. Even should they be able to reproduce the sword exactly, it is not just that one should be looking at, but a series of common features in patina that are universal to genuine, old NCO. This sword is actually pictured on page 191 of Dawson . To a novice who buys on impulse..then asks in the forums.you'll get BURNT. Authorized for production in 1935, the Type 95, commonly referred to as the NCO sword was all-machine made unlike the more expensive and higher-quality Officers sword. I do share Greys sentiment though. It's a reissued one like one in Fuller & Gregory's book. Do not undertake to dis-assemble a sword unless you know what you are So if they put their mind to it, an NCO sword should be no problem to reproduce. There are genuine collectors throughout China too. The grip wrapping and menuki are cast-formed. Please consider starting a new thread rather than reviving this one, unless your post is really relevant and adds to the topic.. C $1,999.99 . This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering. I recently took the plunge and made my first Japanese sword purchase. Of the eight army arsenals active in the war only Kokura, Tokyo First and Nagoya were involved in the Type 95 program. The early serial number shows this sword saw service throughout WW2. Most swords do not have matching numbers because somewhere along the life of the sword the scabbard was changed. Typically it is for food and baby goods and it is actually a livelihood. Didn't want to explain to much, because that sword copys get better and better. Of the eight army arsenals active in the war only Kokura, Tokyo First and Nagoya were involved in the Type 95 program. Real swords, decorative, historical, fantasy; humor, social, ID requests, shopping help, art; all sword-related topics are welcome (we are not very strict about topicality)! There are old sword blades which have no visible grain (muji hada); however, the presence of grain does at the best online prices at eBay! Machine made blade is good condition. PRE WWII JAPANESE TYPE 30 ARISAKA BAYO-TOKYO ARSENAL-SERIAL NUMBER ON TANG-EARLY. If the blade is not sharp all the way to the habaki does not assure it is a WW II era blade, but is This one really annoys me. Used. I agree. "Ninja swords" are a Hollywood fiction. But machine made swords like this one do not have the accuracy of manufacturing that enable the Habaki to perform such a function. Japanese swords will have a visible grain in the steel of the blade. If the swords are getting this good I think that's not a good idea. of forging the blade using multiple folds,etc. Paste as plain text instead, http://ohmura-study.net/790.html. Real swords only had flat-head screws. Bruce has politely written exactly what my reply would have been. Typical WWII Imperial Japanese Army style fittings, with a single suspension ring from the scabbard, known as the "New Military Sword" ( - shin guntou) style. Eligible for all payments - Visa, Mastercard, Discover, AMEX, Paypal, Amazon & Sezzle. the mounts can be interesting with hidden, spring loaded, pop out guards. On newer swords the file marks on the tang will be sharp and crisp. This would fool most entry level guys. real, good condition, price is abit high. Yeah I guess Japanese military swords don't get much attention from the well known names. Hi all,while I'm sure our members know how to pick a fake NCO, I wanted to share these.http://mountcastlesantiques.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=277http://mountcastlesantiques.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=276&zenid=qot0424cgushvekob07rapkkq2The really disappointing part is that I informed the site owner about the first sword and provided a comprehensive list of indicators the sword is not genuine. Sword canes (Shikomi-zue) mostly have very low grade blades. Be the first to know of our latest discoveries and exclusive offers. Most swords do not . Learn how your comment data is processed. . You can post now and register later. Upload or insert images from URL. It's 40 inches overall, with a 33.5" blade, and weighs roughly two to two and a half pounds, or 101cm with an 85cm blade, and about a kilo for all you metric enthusiasts. more then I would pay but I'm grinch, https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/WW2-Japanese-Type-95-NCO-Sword/222687760837?hash=item33d93991c5:g:KZAAAOSwIJlZ6-vP, another version, price is abit high but a honest piece, https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-WW2-Japanese-Shin-Gunto-NCO-Samurai-Sword-extremely-rare-variation-3/332424959489?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D48795%26meid%3D4f20fff958304da4af55f1ba88fb7e90%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D222687760837&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851. The position of the number on the blade, configured to be read with the cutting edge down, identifies the sword as having been produced by the Tokyo Arsenal (The only other source for the Type 95 sword was the Nagoya arsenal, which impressed the number on the blade in such a way that it is read with the cutting edge facing up). Matching serial numbers 31123.