Its makes your gun a somewhat heat machine. Baseball won over for a time when it took him to Gonzaga University on scholarship as a pitcher for the Bulldogs. We continue to prioritize our shipments to our traditional sales channels to maximize powder availability at retailers. Anything between 3.6 and 4.0 should work fine. A top quality jacketed bullet is a top quality jacketed bullet. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. I have been trying to get a 9mm 124gr RN load to reach 1200fps. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. I've had good luck with 3.4gr of Titegroup with the 147fmj boolit. RN for about 10 years with excellent results in my Glocks and STI pistols. Growing up on a secluded farm in rural southeast Kansas, Ryan spent the greater part of his childhood in the woods, plinking and hunting. It's for practice, not for competition. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. You can post now and register later. Recently, well, a few months back, I loaded a thousand of the X-Treme 124gr PRN for my neighbor. Nuts accurate. Zach has several friends that are getting into reloading shotshells because of Zachs reloads. Can't keep enough at the house. Is this not a safe load? Same load just use the coal from another powders load. 100% of all my handloads are done withHodgdonbrands. In Pistols and Revolvers.. Loading is always at your own risk. I have load some test rounds (not shot yet) and used the data from Hodgon website. Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. Just In the 2019 season, he will compete in twelve two-day national matches and 15 regional matches across the country, totaling 4,170 precision hand-loaded match rounds burning roughly 131,355 grains (18.75 pounds) of Varget in matches alone. In her free time, she shoots in NRL22 club matches around the Kansas City area, where she lives with her husband Shane and where she works as a pharmacist. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. Today, it is a popular military and law enforcement handgun cartridge. Phillip has attended all follow-on formal Scout Sniper courses, having graduated with honors and recognized as High Shooter from all. As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. and 8 lb. I have found it to be very accurate, and prefer it over my power pistol loads. This is a flattened spherical powder. In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. I consider the type of bullet. She has a passion to introduce the shooting sports and showcase gun owners and the 2nd Amendment in a positive light. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. It's for practice, not for competition. I used data for 115gr FMJ because I thought that's what the Berry's bullets were. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. 2019 Alabama Precision Long Range Challenge 5th, 2021 Alabama Precision Long Range Classic 3rd. Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. Generally speaking, ~3.3 grains of Titegroup using a 147 grain bullet is about as vanilla of a competition load as it gets. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. My goal was to find a load that worked well is all my 9MMs with differing barrel lengths, rifling, etc. Jan 30, 2011 (Edited) I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. This is a good consistent and uniform powder, reloads easy and accurate. Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. Sowhat about Titegroup and what do some cases look like? I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. Maybe Ill do another test with the chrono 10ft away and see if I get any difference in results, thanks. Speer says 4.5gr is max, Lyman say 4.5gr is max w/ 115gr bullets, so I am having a diff time digesting your data. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. It also burns hot, runs hot in your gun. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. This section shows you A LOT of information about 9 MM powders and how they compete against each other using the same brass, same bullet, same OAL, same primer, same gun, same day, same conditions..the only thing that is different is the powder. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. Maximum loads from Sierra: 115 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.6 gn - 1100 fps. Appreciate the input. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. Brian moved back to Idaho, where he completed his bachelors degree in Business Finance at Albertsons College of Idaho. Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. I use 115 gr xtreme bullets mainly with titegroup but made up some loads recently with hp38/231. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Hailing from the Kansas City-area, Jaclyn is a rifle shooter specializing in precision rifle shooting. When I used titegroup my load with 147s was 3.0gr and with 124s it was 3.8gr, power factor was always around 130. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk #1 As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. /wp-content/uploads/2016/08/HODGDON_LOGO_DARK.png, https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/titegroup_1_lb.jpg. Keyboards and steering wheels bring out the absolute worst in people. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. BrianEnos.com This works well for me, although the TG seems to meter a bit inconsistant, so I bought some WSF to try out. Retired LEO/Rangemaster, Glock armorer, pistol instructor, Endowment NRA member. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. I do know its about mid charge range tho. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. No Charges? I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. Brian spent three years in Spokane as a Zag until his baseball career was cut short by a tragic plane accident that took the lives of his parents and younger sister. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. The Lee second edition manual shows 115gr jacketed has 4.8gr max at 1.125 oal for 1158fps. Posted by Donald H Nolen on Sep 26th 2022. Nov 7, 2015. Soon I got a lot more comfortable as I did it a lot. Upgrade efforts paused for now. Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. 2.8 gr. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. I wonder why the difference. Ryan still has a passion for hunting, but 3-gun gives Ryan and wife Dianna the opportunity to travel together and compete with and against amazing people. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. Loading 9mm RN with Titegroup data horsegoalie Apr 24, 2013 H horsegoalie Rating - 100% 6 0 0 Joined Sep 18, 2012 Messages 284 Likes 27 Apr 24, 2013 #1/11 I am starting a load with some Berry's 115gr RN plated bullets and Titegroup. You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=9%20mm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/dm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=566352. The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. I like using this gun because I've heard HK tests it at 2x max pressure specs for the 9mm. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. She has competed on the TV series, 3 Gun Nation as well as an upcoming show called The Big Gun on Sportsman Channel, airing in Q1 2016. We will pass. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. 1.100 in. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. Although her family hobby was horse shows and barrel racing, her father introduced her to USPSA in high school. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. All calculations were done by hand using formulas, please let me know if anything seems off. A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. Many of these are 131-135 PF, which are plausible competition loads. Used for my 9mm loads mostly. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. This powder, like other very fast pistol powders, are not good for higher velocity ammunition and really only good for budget shooting ammo, competitions, or standard pressure ammo. Hodgdon on line data is a good place to look. Use the LRN and you will be good. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. ABOUT MARSHA: Marsha is the co-host of Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha and is a Licensed Montana Professional Guide. C.O.A.L. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. Save Share. Powder is generally +/- 0.1 gr as it dropped using a Hornady powder drop on my Dillon xl650(although usually right at the listed charge). An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. 9mm/38 Caliber 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder By looking4reloadingdeals December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber Share Followers 0 Reply to this topic Start new topic 513 Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Hello everyone, I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. Make an introduction to Jake and youll instantly receive a big grin and firm handshake. Tested 3.6-4.0 gr titegroup with berry's RN 124, col 1.150. JavaScript is disabled. Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 668 Scottsdale, AZ Posted January 28, 2018 Notes 2: 3.5grs Tite Group Distance to Chrono (FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight (gr): 147.00 Temp: N/A F BP: N/A inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 957 298.99 140.68 9 947 292.77 139.21 8 959 300.24 140.97 Its popularity soared after World War II, and the U.S. military adopted the 9x19mm as its service pistol round in 1985. Quickly he was attending weekly, monthly, and annual shoots, which included Nebraska state, USAYESS, and many more. looking4reloadingdeals If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. Pasted as rich text. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. Unique. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. So filling up half way looks normal. In her off time, Regina writes for many publications in both print and digital mediums, trains other shooters, and mentors several up-and-coming female competitors in the precision rifle discipline. First reloading experience was disappointing until I learned the process and started making very consistent ammo. containers. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! ABOUT WALKER: Walker is 15 years old and has hunted from Africa to Hawaii, and several places in between, including the Yukon in Canada. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. Skip this one, you can do better. Not cast, but I have 4k 124gr Barry's plated over 4.0gr. Gaige Grosskreutz -- The Felon Shot By Kyle Rittenhouse. Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. So you are saying you found data specificly for Berry's plated & TG? containers. Better to be too careful than blow something up. Both Plated round nose and JHP. THR Group Project - PISTOL - Advanced Reloading Concepts and Discussions. They are calibrated at/for specified distances. plated or jacketed bullet at 1150 fps minimum came closest to the ideal load. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. Just dirty as we ever seen and HOT. I use titegroup for 9mm using the Lee charge disk on my turret press. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. I will be shooting mostly target at the range, 150-200 rounds per visit. Hollow points may be shorter so COAL may vary some. Walkalong, that was my guess also, but there are other fast powders listed with 900fps and 950fps loads. In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. When we say same bullet, same case, same primer, what we mean is each case/bullet/primer is weighed . Still using same load years later and it's a good round. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. All I had was word of mouth and books. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. As of 2014, Ryan and Dianna have become full time hunters and competitors, focusing most predominately on 3-Gun. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. is 1.150" with Hornandy bullets. Regina Milkovich has been the leading female in precision rifle shooting since she first picked up a rifle in 2009. I am gonna give it a try. Your link has been automatically embedded. He is also the past Editor of Blackpowder Guns and Hunting Magazine. The 9mm Makarov and 9mm Luger velocities of 1,000 fps and 1,100 fps respectively were quite respectable, especially in the short-barreled SIG SAUER P365. May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) Excellent pistol powder for accuracy and cowboy action shooting. This link will be updated as I continue to develop more loads and test them. Why? I was ordering my daughter an archery set and decided to order a Lee classic loader in 9mm. I'm a self confessed TG whore but 4.5 is a little warm for my liking I stay at the 4.3 range for a 115g FMJ. She remains the only female to take home overall wins in national level precision rifle competitions when she won the 2016 NorCal Tactical Bolt Rifle Challenge and 2018 K&M Kahles Precision Rifle Competition. I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. As with any load data posted on the internet, please start testing low and work your way up. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. Hardware Reloading 9mm load for 124gr with Titegroup G-Lo Jan 11, 2015 G-Lo Rating - 100% 8 0 0 Joined Jul 22, 2012 Messages 588 Likes 38 Jan 11, 2015 #1/18 Hey all- I wanted to ask you guys what have you liked for 9mm 124gr plated bullets using Titegroup. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. We recommend that you use published lead load data from reputable sources. He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website. Zach, a resident of McCook, Nebraska, started shooting trap and hunting when he was 10. I shot a lot of Sta-Ball 6.5 and it worked well beyond expectations. 125 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.8 gn - 1100 fps. Thanks all. behind a 115gr. Shellholders: Lee #19 For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. Some of these loads are over manufacturer recommended maximums, DO NOT COPY or try! Display as a link instead, He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. Don't ask me why the maximum charge for Titegroup is higher with the 125 gn bullets. Some take the caution a little farther than needed but really nothing wrong with that. It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. Only time I used TG in 9mm it was 4.5grs. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. When Wyatts not hunting or fishing he loves competing in rodeos and roping off of his horse, General. December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. He is also a noted TV personality, regularly appearing on TV programs Shooting USA. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. If you work from the max COL until they feed from the magazine and chamber correctly, you should find your ideal COL. My standard load is 124gr. I know a lot of USPSA shooters who use it for their 9mm minor loads. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. I want to be safe. Each week the Schearer family will hunt with a variety of weapons from archery, muzzleloader and shotgun to centerfire rifles and will not only focus on the hunt, but will be filled with educational tips to make the viewers better sportsmen and sportswomen. JavaScript is disabled. Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. It's accurate and reliable. Lee made a micro charge disc that may help with small loads. 9 mm Luger - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. He still serves the NKCPD as a Range Officer volunteer today. 6 grains? So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. What is your favorite firearm to load for? I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. Makes an impression on you. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. Im liking the W231 better as of late in the 9mm tho. As long as they cycle fine in your guns, you should be good to go. Then work up from there. After starting a life and career in Tulsa, she pursued barrel racing until she found 3-Gun in 2009. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. After taking up competitive shooting in 2016, she, won the Precision Rifle Series Production division in 2017 with her Savage Stealth. Here is what I have to work with and have used a combination of 3 books, 3 magazines, and self-reported loads from the interwebs. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Although such an edge clearly exists, its significance cannot be quantified". This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . Your previous content has been restored. Probably saved me some money. At first I was a little leery when I could not find the exact bullet I wanted to use with the powder I was using. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. RCBS 9mm-125-RN-GC 123 TiteGroup 4.4 1045 129 . I have spent a lot of time perusing through the 9mm Reloading section and it seems that most folks who are using 124gr FMJ & JHP bullets with Titegroup are loading their cases with 4.0gr to 4.2gr of powder. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is at or higher than the recommended max charge. The Wester #1 and Sierra #7 Manuals have 9mm +P data. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. You need to get teh double disc kit. containers. Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. That will allow you to get a finer-tuned powder drop. He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. tysdad115 Rating - 100% 15 0 0 Joined Like many reloaders I ended up with 6 or 7 different powders for my pistols until I shot 5 rounds from each similar FPS loads from a bench. I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. Hmm, I thought it was 5ft. He retired from the North Kansas City Police Department after tours through Patrol Division and the K-9 Narcotics Unit, with additional duties as the Department Armorer, SRT Unit Sniper, and Range Officer/Instructor.